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authorMatthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>2006-12-11 00:24:06 +0000
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-<PRE>You're probably using a Comcast POP3 server. Many others have
-experienced this problem. The problem is that the server truncates
-the amount of data returned by the POP3 TOP command. Comcast changed
-to the Maillennium POP3 server in Summer 2003. For several months
-they refused to acknowledge any issue at their end that would account
-for email truncation. Recently the Comcast Government Affairs Manager
-at Comcast of Montgomery (Maryland) sent me the information at the end
-of this message.
-
-I believe the Outlook Express flaw they reference was fixed a few
-years ago. Regardless it does seem to be a strange and non-conforming
-server implementation that silently does the wrong thing specified by
-the RFC and every other server I've used.
-
-On the other hand, people have made the comment that fetchmail should
-not be relying on TOP because a) that's not what it is for and/or b)
-it is an optional POP3 command.
-
-Item I8 of the fetchmail FAQ which appears to be maintained by Eric
-S. Raymond says, &quot;Don't mistake this for a fetchmail bug.&quot;
-
-It would be nice to hear from a fetchmail expert/authority on whether
-fetchmail is doing the right thing by using TOP and for a rationale of
-the FAQ's response.
-
-If fetchmail's use of TOP is legitimate then maybe Comcast would
-uncripple their server if more people complained.
-
-Jim Foley
-
-=======================================================================
-=======================================================================
-
-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:59:17 -0500
-
-Mr. Foley, this email responds to the questions you posed following our
-conference call.
-
-First, Comcast does support POP 3 TOP commands, however Comcast has found
-that increasing the amount of data TOP returns beyond the value of 64K has a
-tendency to crash Microsoft Outlook Express when an abnormally large header
-is sent. Increasing the value beyond 64K would open the platform to
-malicious use of large headers that adversely impacts system performance.
-Virtually all of Comcast's high-speed Internet customers use Outlook
-Express. Comcast has not received requests from other subscribers who seek
-to use the TOP command in the manner you have requested. Further, Comcast
-has not received any other complaints regarding email truncation with the
-TOP command. Should you wish to continue checking your mail through manual
-commands you might try using the RETR command, which will return the entire
-message.
-
-...
-
-
-
-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:28:11 -0500
-
-Mr. Foley:
-
-This is in response to your question regarding &quot;POP 3 RFC compliance.&quot; We
-have tried to answer your question about Comcast's services by talking about
-the specific application in which you are interested and how that
-application relates to technical information regarding the configuration of
-Comcast's Internet service. We have provided you all the information that
-we can by explaining that Comcast limits the optional POP 3 Top Command to a
-value of 64k because any larger value has a tendency to crash Microsoft
-Outlook and could leave Comcast's system open to the malicious use of large
-headers intended to impair system performance.
-
-The decision by Comcast to place limitations on the optional POP 3 TOP email
-commands is a technical business decision made by Comcast in the best
-interest of all its customers and its system. ...
-
-...
-
-With respect to the specific RFC at issue, RFC 1939, POP 3, it is our
-understanding that it is a protocol &quot;intended to permit a workstation to
-dynamically access a maildrop on a server host in a useful fashion.
-Usually, this means that the POP3 protocol is used to allow a workstation to
-retrieve mail that the server is holding for it. Pop 3 is not intended to
-provide extensive manipulation operations of mail on the server.&quot; POP 3 was
-created in May 1996 and has not been revised since, despite the many changes
-in computer hardware and software related to handling of email since that
-time. In any event, the TOP command is identified as an optional POP 3
-command in RFC 1939.
-
-...
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